by Brooklyn May 19,2025
With the *Thunderbolts* movie now captivating audiences in theaters, Marvel Comics is set to conclude one era of the franchise and herald a new chapter for this enduring super-team. However, fans are in for a twist. Much like the MCU's decision to retitle Thunderbolts as "The New Avengers" after its first weekend of release, the new Thunderbolts comic is also transitioning to this new moniker. This bold move challenges heroes like Carnage, Clea, and Wolverine to step up and embody the legacy of Earth’s Mightiest Heroes. Can they rise to the occasion?
The journey ahead promises to be challenging for these characters as they strive to form a cohesive and effective Avengers team. This was the key insight from our recent discussion with writer Sam Humphries. Dive deeper into the details of the Thunderbolts/New Avengers transformation, discover how Humphries curated this diverse yet formidable lineup, and uncover the looming threat that necessitates such a powerful ensemble.
Given Marvel Studios' notorious secrecy regarding upcoming projects, it was intriguing to learn when writer Sam Humphries became aware of the title change during the development of his Thunderbolts pitch. Was the plan always to create a New Avengers comic, or was this a last-minute pivot? Fortunately, Humphries clarifies that this wasn't a sudden change but part of the initial strategy.
“It was part of the very first conversation I had with Alanna [Smith],” Humphries reveals to IGN. “It's been exhilarating and maddening to keep this top secret for months. Like planning a surprise party, but for thousands of people. I don't even have a document on my hard drive that says ‘New Avengers’ on it. You never know.”
Humphries elaborates, “Initially, there were some logistical details to be worked out behind the scenes, so I had to be prepared to pivot on a dime. But the whole plan was locked in by the time I started the first issue. You can see it in the lineup -- the New Avengers and the Killuminati both have echoes of [Brian] Bendis' and [Jonathan] Hickman's New Avengers teams. Jed's [MacKay] got a killer lineup of do-gooders in the Avengers book, and I wanted our book to distinguish itself with a bunch of bastards.”
Humphries had significant creative freedom in assembling the Thunderbolts/New Avengers lineup, aiming to represent various facets of the Marvel Universe.
“Oh, this was so much fun,” Humphries enthuses. “My basic concept was -- the Illuminati were seven kings and heroes from seven different corners of the Marvel Universe, so what if we did the same with some of the biggest badasses representing mutants, the mystical world, the Spider family, the gamma family, and so on? I have immense gratitude for our amazing editor Alanna Smith who supported this idea from the jump, even though she had to liaise with pretty much every Marvel editorial office to make it happen. That scream you hear is her Microsoft Teams begging for mercy. And big thanks to all the editors and creators who were generous enough to trust us with their wonderful, cherished characters! Love you all! (They're gonna regret it.)”
As Humphries suggests, this New Avengers team is far from the typical paragons of virtue and heroism. It comprises hardened killers, monsters, and one irritable underwater king. Similar to the original New Avengers from 2004, this group is united by fate and circumstance, and they are not expected to gel instantly.
“I think the phrase I used in my pitch was ‘interpersonal dynamics go BOOM,’" Humphries explains. “These aren't level-headed guardians of humanity, these are a bunch of hothead bastards trying to use their bad impulses for good, with mixed results. They should not be allowed to be in the same room together. The big question is, who hates each other the most? It might be Clea and Carnage. Or it might be Namor and Laura. Or it might be…”
While the new series mirrors the MCU's title change, the actual roster of the New Avengers differs significantly from its cinematic counterpart. The one consistent element is Bucky Barnes, who remains a part of the team following the conclusion of the current Thunderbolts in Thunderbolts: Doomstrike. It will be up to the former Winter Soldier to manage this eclectic group and mold them into a functioning unit.
“I have so much love for Jackson [Lanzing] and Collin's [Kelly] long, glorious run with Bucky,” Humphries says. “I'm honored and lucky to follow what they've achieved with the character. And Bucky's gonna need the wisdom and experience of every insane thing they put him through. The world is upside down and someone needs to do something about it, damn it.”
What threat could possibly demand the combined strength of Wolverine, Namor, Carnage, Clea, and Hulk? Just as the New Avengers draw inspiration from the classic Illuminati, their adversaries in the series are a direct derivative of the Illuminati. Humphries dubs them the “Killuminati.”
Art by Josemaria Casnanovas. (Image Credit: Marvel)“Someone tried to make duplicates of the Illuminati, and someone f***ed up,” Humphries teases. “Now there's seven demented and deformed worst-case scenarios running around. Bucky's gonna have big problems keeping his team together. And the same goes for the Killuminati and their ‘leader’ -- Iron Apex.”
The New Avengers pairs Humphries with artist Ton Lima, whose previous work includes *New Thunderbolts* and *West Coast Avengers*. Humphries notes that the art in this series draws inspiration not from the MCU, but from another highly popular action movie franchise.
“Ton is a BEAST,” Humphries praises. “He makes the good guys look brutal and sexy, and the bad guys look brutal and disgusting. I told him he needed to watch every Fast and the Furious movie in a row ten times without breaks. Based on his pages, I think he actually did it, the madman!”
*The New Avengers #1* is slated for release on June 11, 2025.
For more insights into the MCU's latest twist, explore why Thunderbolts was renamed The New Avengers, and delve into why the MCU has a big problem with Sebastian Stan’s Bucky.
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